Comments on: Sunday…Computer “issues”, site stats, Seattle Times woes, biosecurity challenges, biodiesel and our Jetta, and morning fishing http://ilind.net/2008/08/03/sundaycomputer-issues-site-stats-seattle-times-woes-biosecurity-challenges-biodiesel-and-our-jetta-and-morning-fishing/ Ian Lind • Online daily from Kaaawa, Hawaii Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:21:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: charles http://ilind.net/2008/08/03/sundaycomputer-issues-site-stats-seattle-times-woes-biosecurity-challenges-biodiesel-and-our-jetta-and-morning-fishing/comment-page-1/#comment-880 charles Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:12:14 +0000 http://ilind.net/?p=587#comment-880 I think we're straying off the main point. As far as I know, Johnson is not being accused of sexual harassment. Besides, for argument's sake, if the x-rated e-mail is all text, it's very difficult for any employee to claim harassment. After all, you'd have to sit down and read the screen and then be appropriately offended, I suppose. So, yes, porn is not appropriate in the workplace. I don't know anyone advocating otherwise. But, again, (and this will be my last post on this since it's already repetitive), my main point is that this is about using state equipment inappropriately; i.e., for personal use. There's a whole lot of activities (not just porn) that falls under this category. In general, all employers, not just government, either discourage or outright ban using their equipment for personal use. Period. I think we’re straying off the main point. As far as I know, Johnson is not being accused of sexual harassment. Besides, for argument’s sake, if the x-rated e-mail is all text, it’s very difficult for any employee to claim harassment. After all, you’d have to sit down and read the screen and then be appropriately offended, I suppose.

So, yes, porn is not appropriate in the workplace. I don’t know anyone advocating otherwise.

But, again, (and this will be my last post on this since it’s already repetitive), my main point is that this is about using state equipment inappropriately; i.e., for personal use. There’s a whole lot of activities (not just porn) that falls under this category.

In general, all employers, not just government, either discourage or outright ban using their equipment for personal use. Period.

]]> By: stagnant http://ilind.net/2008/08/03/sundaycomputer-issues-site-stats-seattle-times-woes-biosecurity-challenges-biodiesel-and-our-jetta-and-morning-fishing/comment-page-1/#comment-878 stagnant Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:48:22 +0000 http://ilind.net/?p=587#comment-878 i see your point, but i don't think porn is appropriate in the workplace... say Johnson is sitting at his computer looking at an x-rated e-mail, and his female employees walk in. doesn't that, obliquely, rate as sexual harassment? especially in his position as president and CEO? i see your point, but i don’t think porn is appropriate in the workplace… say Johnson is sitting at his computer looking at an x-rated e-mail, and his female employees walk in. doesn’t that, obliquely, rate as sexual harassment? especially in his position as president and CEO?

]]> By: charles http://ilind.net/2008/08/03/sundaycomputer-issues-site-stats-seattle-times-woes-biosecurity-challenges-biodiesel-and-our-jetta-and-morning-fishing/comment-page-1/#comment-877 charles Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:18:56 +0000 http://ilind.net/?p=587#comment-877 Both are not "okay" and there is a difference but it's all relative stuff, no? Say you send a few risque e-mails to your buddy during work. That's frowned upon, no doubt. But say you run a side business on E-Bay during work on your computer that takes two or three hours of your time during your work day. That's not only frowned upon, that would probably result in your dismissal. In my mind, it's no so much the content (barring criminal activity, of course) than the amount of "abuse" of state equipment. Put another way. If you make one copy on the office copier that would be one thing. If you ran off 5000 copies, that would quite another. Without knowing the details of Johnson's trangressions, it's hard to opine what would be an appropriate punishment. Both are not “okay” and there is a difference but it’s all relative stuff, no?

Say you send a few risque e-mails to your buddy during work. That’s frowned upon, no doubt.

But say you run a side business on E-Bay during work on your computer that takes two or three hours of your time during your work day. That’s not only frowned upon, that would probably result in your dismissal.

In my mind, it’s no so much the content (barring criminal activity, of course) than the amount of “abuse” of state equipment.

Put another way. If you make one copy on the office copier that would be one thing. If you ran off 5000 copies, that would quite another.

Without knowing the details of Johnson’s trangressions, it’s hard to opine what would be an appropriate punishment.

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