Comments on: Sunday…A bit of new gadgetry, rail transit issues, Lingle & labor http://ilind.net/2009/06/07/sundaya-bit-of-new-gadgetry-rail-transit-issues-lingle-labor/ Ian Lind • Online daily from Kaaawa, Hawaii Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:47:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Doug http://ilind.net/2009/06/07/sundaya-bit-of-new-gadgetry-rail-transit-issues-lingle-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1745 Doug Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:54:48 +0000 http://ilind.net/?p=2580#comment-1745 Borreca mentioned the "Mayors won't play along" aspect of the CB negotiations at least twice last week, if I recall correctly. As I undertsand it, the Gov only needs a single mayor to join her in making an offer (since she has four votes and they each have only one vote), but that fifth vote just isn't there. Interesting. This situation could also help to explain the AG about-face on the need to negotiate furloughs... http://poinography.com/wordpress/?p=732 Borreca mentioned the “Mayors won’t play along” aspect of the CB negotiations at least twice last week, if I recall correctly.

As I undertsand it, the Gov only needs a single mayor to join her in making an offer (since she has four votes and they each have only one vote), but that fifth vote just isn’t there. Interesting.

This situation could also help to explain the AG about-face on the need to negotiate furloughs…

http://poinography.com/wordpress/?p=732

]]> By: charles http://ilind.net/2009/06/07/sundaya-bit-of-new-gadgetry-rail-transit-issues-lingle-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1744 charles Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:19:20 +0000 http://ilind.net/?p=2580#comment-1744 The Lingle-Aiona administration is indeed a spin machine. There's no gentle way to put it otherwise. One the one hand, you have Laderta quoted as saying contrary to what the unions are asserting, that the administration has bargained in good faith. On the other hand, they have yet to put forward a formal offer. I'm no labor negotiator but common sense would dictate that unless there's an offer there can be no counteroffer. And you don't put forward an offer in the media. That doesn't count no matter how Lingle spins it. The Lingle-Aiona administration is indeed a spin machine. There’s no gentle way to put it otherwise.

One the one hand, you have Laderta quoted as saying contrary to what the unions are asserting, that the administration has bargained in good faith.

On the other hand, they have yet to put forward a formal offer.

I’m no labor negotiator but common sense would dictate that unless there’s an offer there can be no counteroffer.

And you don’t put forward an offer in the media. That doesn’t count no matter how Lingle spins it.

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