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	<title>Comments on: Tuesday&#8230;Door-to-door security sales ringing consumer alarms</title>
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	<description>Ian Lind • Online daily from Kaaawa, Hawaii</description>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 22:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha Ian,
We just had a guy come to our door trying to sell a G.E. Security monitoring program. After a polite conversation and sending him on his way, I remembered reading about security systems on your blog some time back. A quick search and found this thread. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha Ian,<br />
We just had a guy come to our door trying to sell a G.E. Security monitoring program. After a polite conversation and sending him on his way, I remembered reading about security systems on your blog some time back. A quick search and found this thread. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Berlier</title>
		<link>http://ilind.net/2009/06/16/tuesdaydoor-to-door-security-sales-ringing-consumer-alarms/comment-page-1/#comment-25816</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Berlier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hopefully this still finds you.. you should educate yourself on Hawaii&#039;s licensing laws before you make such broad claims.
http://hawaii.gov/dcca)/pvl/hrs/hrs_pvl_444.pdf
the above link will take you to Hawaii&#039;s statute 444 which covers the topic of what is required to be licensed, and I believe if you read the whole article you will discover many sections you and the other summer programs are in violation of.. Alarm System Installation is a regulated industry and as such, I can assure you LICENSING IS REQUIRED. 
If you start with 444-2 paragraph 3 you will see the following listed under the exemptions --(3)
A person who sells or installs any finished products, materials, or articles of merchandise that are not actually fabricated into and do not become a permanent fixed part of the structure, or to the construction, alteration, improvement, or repair of personal property;
Once the hole is cut into the wall and a screw set into the frame it becomes recognized as a permanant fixture.. (even in Utah the law reads the same, alarms systems are considered permanant improvements) 
Shame on you and your company for trying to hide behind the law by twisting and selling your interpretation to benefit yourself and mislead the public again....
Just another sales pitch......
well sir, I am not buying this crap from you-------</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hopefully this still finds you.. you should educate yourself on Hawaii&#8217;s licensing laws before you make such broad claims.<br />
<a href="http://hawaii.gov/dcca" rel="nofollow">http://hawaii.gov/dcca</a>)/pvl/hrs/hrs_pvl_444.pdf<br />
the above link will take you to Hawaii&#8217;s statute 444 which covers the topic of what is required to be licensed, and I believe if you read the whole article you will discover many sections you and the other summer programs are in violation of.. Alarm System Installation is a regulated industry and as such, I can assure you LICENSING IS REQUIRED.<br />
If you start with 444-2 paragraph 3 you will see the following listed under the exemptions &#8211;(3)<br />
A person who sells or installs any finished products, materials, or articles of merchandise that are not actually fabricated into and do not become a permanent fixed part of the structure, or to the construction, alteration, improvement, or repair of personal property;<br />
Once the hole is cut into the wall and a screw set into the frame it becomes recognized as a permanant fixture.. (even in Utah the law reads the same, alarms systems are considered permanant improvements)<br />
Shame on you and your company for trying to hide behind the law by twisting and selling your interpretation to benefit yourself and mislead the public again&#8230;.<br />
Just another sales pitch&#8230;&#8230;<br />
well sir, I am not buying this crap from you&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 04:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.  There is a group of these guys renting a place next to us and the system they use can be purchased online for less than $200 and installed yourself.  There are even cheaper, nice quality, systems that are used by the top alarm companies for little more than $100.  Additionally, you can get alarm monitoring for less than $10 a month.

DO NOT BUY INTO THIS &quot;COMPANY&quot; WITHOUT DOING YOUR HOMEWORK.  Less than 5 minutes with Google told me more than enough to know to stay away from this scam.

They are placing Monitronics signs in the yard. If you Google this company, Hawaii and college students, you will see several bad stories concerning these guys.   Hawaii BBB has a large amount of complaints on them and their practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.  There is a group of these guys renting a place next to us and the system they use can be purchased online for less than $200 and installed yourself.  There are even cheaper, nice quality, systems that are used by the top alarm companies for little more than $100.  Additionally, you can get alarm monitoring for less than $10 a month.</p>
<p>DO NOT BUY INTO THIS &#8220;COMPANY&#8221; WITHOUT DOING YOUR HOMEWORK.  Less than 5 minutes with Google told me more than enough to know to stay away from this scam.</p>
<p>They are placing Monitronics signs in the yard. If you Google this company, Hawaii and college students, you will see several bad stories concerning these guys.   Hawaii BBB has a large amount of complaints on them and their practices.</p>
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