Comments on: News from the NW–Glanville may get the boot from Portland State, and thinking through issues of schools vs. poverty http://ilind.net/2009/11/16/news-from-the-nw-glanville-may-get-the-boot-from-portland-state-and-thinking-through-issues-of-schools-vs-poverty/ Ian Lind • Online daily from Kaaawa, Hawaii Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:21:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: nafisa http://ilind.net/2009/11/16/news-from-the-nw-glanville-may-get-the-boot-from-portland-state-and-thinking-through-issues-of-schools-vs-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-8620 nafisa Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:22:04 +0000 http://ilind.net/?p=3701#comment-8620 I agree with the amoeba. This is my strong belief. And this person has worded it much better then I have. The proliferation of private schools in Hawaii is the biggest problem with the public schools. The fact that it is accepted here that the elected representatives of the people, in the main, do not participate in the public school system is an anomaly. The mentality of people who say they support public schools and in the next breath say their children attend a private school are total hypocrites. I know that my child's education suffered by being in the public schools in Hawaii (academics at the blue ribbon elementary here was a year behind the average school we left behind on the mainland). But despite that, I still think the child gained from the experience as a whole. Public education is important, to opt out is to abandon democracy. I agree with the amoeba. This is my strong belief. And this person has worded it much better then I have. The proliferation of private schools in Hawaii is the biggest problem with the public schools. The fact that it is accepted here that the elected representatives of the people, in the main, do not participate in the public school system is an anomaly. The mentality of people who say they support public schools and in the next breath say their children attend a private school are total hypocrites. I know that my child’s education suffered by being in the public schools in Hawaii (academics at the blue ribbon elementary here was a year behind the average school we left behind on the mainland). But despite that, I still think the child gained from the experience as a whole. Public education is important, to opt out is to abandon democracy.

]]> By: the amoeba http://ilind.net/2009/11/16/news-from-the-nw-glanville-may-get-the-boot-from-portland-state-and-thinking-through-issues-of-schools-vs-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-8598 the amoeba Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:51:15 +0000 http://ilind.net/?p=3701#comment-8598 Thanks for covering the Pacific Northwest wrangles on education. They are of compelling interest to all, and particular interest to Quilly and myself, as we are moving there at the start of the New Year, and Q. is an elementary-school educator. The link between poverty and educational performance was actually getting some traction in the press before the crash took every word but "Cut!" out of the school-funding vocabulary. The worst consequence of refusing to confront this issue is the institutionalization of that poverty: "Elves and Dragons! Cabbages and potatoes are better for me and you. Don't go getting mixed up in the business of your betters." It is my opinion that, until Hawaii and Hawaiians <i>close</i> all the Sidewells, all the Punahous, yes, all the Kamehamehas, and recognize that the education of the populace is the <i>common responsibility of all</i>, including those who create educational disequity in the public schools and then use that disequity as an excuse to opt out and thus protect their own exalted class, there can and will be no progress on educational issues in this state (or elsewhere in these Untied States). Thanks for covering the Pacific Northwest wrangles on education. They are of compelling interest to all, and particular interest to Quilly and myself, as we are moving there at the start of the New Year, and Q. is an elementary-school educator.

The link between poverty and educational performance was actually getting some traction in the press before the crash took every word but “Cut!” out of the school-funding vocabulary. The worst consequence of refusing to confront this issue is the institutionalization of that poverty:

“Elves and Dragons! Cabbages and potatoes are better for me and you. Don’t go getting mixed up in the business of your betters.”

It is my opinion that, until Hawaii and Hawaiians close all the Sidewells, all the Punahous, yes, all the Kamehamehas, and recognize that the education of the populace is the common responsibility of all, including those who create educational disequity in the public schools and then use that disequity as an excuse to opt out and thus protect their own exalted class, there can and will be no progress on educational issues in this state (or elsewhere in these Untied States).

]]> By: Pat http://ilind.net/2009/11/16/news-from-the-nw-glanville-may-get-the-boot-from-portland-state-and-thinking-through-issues-of-schools-vs-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-8596 Pat Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:37:38 +0000 http://ilind.net/?p=3701#comment-8596 Thanks for the interesting education article. The ideas are worth promoting in our multi-cultural economic society. Thanks for the interesting education article. The ideas are worth promoting in our multi-cultural economic society.

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