I’m going to share a bit about why I went looking for a new camera, with some initial reactions. In another yet to be written, I’ll add some comments on the first few days of carrying the new camera on our morning walks.
For more than a decade, I’ve used a series of Canon EOS-M cameras as my primary every day, walk-around camera, upgrading along thje way to the later models as they were introduced. The M cameras are relatively small, easy to carry, and with a largest sensor except for full-frame cameras, providing excellent image quality. The cameras APS-C sensor was the same used in Canon’s single lens reflex cameras of the time, including one introduced the same year the first M camera came out. Over time, I’ve gotten very comfortable with the size and feel, as well as the available lenses. But nearly five years ago, Canon stopped adding to the M line when it introduced its first R system full-frame cameras, and then expanded the R system to include several APS-C cameras that competed directly with the M cameras.
The end was near. Finally, last year Canon announced it was discontinuing support for its M cameras. Although not unexpected, this was not good news for users like myself. Suddenly it’s an oprhaned line of cameras. Of course, we can continue to use our M cameras until they die. My thought, though, is that if I’m going to have to change in the intermediate future, why not do it now and enjoy the latest technology while I still can?
After a year of mentally shopping around, comparing this and that aspect of different brands and camera types now on the market, I recently responded to a sale and bought a Panasonic S9 camera. This is a full frame camera introduced earlier this year, with a larger sensor than the smaller APS-C, which has a number of advantage including, theoretically at least, possibly better picture quality.
I ended up with the S9 because it is considered one of the smallest full-frame interchangeable lens cameras available, and it cost $1,000 less than the comparable Sony.
The camera has been much criticized by online reviewers for lacking several things, including an electronic viewfinder, a “hot shoe” connector for a flash or a microphone, and for its “electronic shutter.” Honestly, I think those criticisms were by people who spend their time reading camera specifications rather than taking photos.
My Canon M cameras also lacked a viewfinder. At first, I thought this was going to be a problem, so paid more to get an accessory viewfinder. Well, it turns out it has rarely been used. When I wore glasses, they would get in the way of the viewfinder. And, later, I just got used to composing a photo using the camera’s rear screen, as you would with an iPhone. I liked that this camera offered most of the features of its “big brother,” the S5ii, incuding what was described as improved autofocus from earlier Panasonic cameras. And the price was right, not too much to wager on what is really a test run. Perhaps not the best case for going forward, but it made sense to me.
I started with the S9 and Panasonic’s own 20-60mm zoom lens.
After unboxing, charging the battery (which charges in the camera, which doesn’t come with an external battery charger), and scanning quickly through the user guide, I attached a Domke camera strap followed by the zoom lens, and held the new camera in my hand for the first time.
Disappointment. Although many of the reviews mention its compact size, it is actually larger and bulkier than I had hoped. It only weighs a few ounces more than my current M6ii, but it has more mass. It feels bigger than it is, perhaps. The lens is much larger in diameter than the M6 lens, and the S9 just feels bigger and heavier than I had expected. It’s possible that it just balances differently than the Canon, and I’ll get used to the feeling after carrying it for a few weeks. I hope so.
But, bottom line, it is not a small, svelt piece of equipment. This will not fit in a pocket, no matter how hard you try.
Here are a couple of photos of the S9 and the Canon m6ii side by side.
Here’s another comparison, the S9 compared to the nearly 13-year old Sony RX1, which is also a full frame camera. I really like the Sony, but it is showing its age. It is slow to focus, which makes chasing dogs and cats difficult, although it can produce excellent photos. Sony still sells its higher-resolution successor, the RX1ii, for over $3,000. I do browse online looking at used copies, but keep hoping I can find something similar that doesn’t have a fixed lense (although the RX1’s fixed lens is really excellent).
Back to my first moments with the S9. The zoom lens is very stiff and takes more pressure to turn, whether to zoom closer to the subject or back out to a wide angle view. I’m guessing this is because the camera and lens are weather sealed, which is good, but it’s still another thing that will take a bit of getting used to.
I quickly discovered several little things that bothered me. For example, to extend the zoom lens on the S9 requires rotating the zoom ring the opposite direction from the Canon, so muscle memory from long Canon use makes me have to think each time I zoom want to zoom in or out. I have to think about it instead of just doing it. Learning curve!
Perhaps the biggest problem I’ve found so far is the incredibly bad implementation of the camera’s rear screen which, without a viewfinder, is a big part of using this camera.
A reviewing site I rely on (DPReview.com) described it as 3.0″ 1.84M dots, fully articulating. Well, turns out the “fully articulating” part isn’t really correct.
When taken out of the box, the screen is turned around so that the active side is facing the camera and protected from accidental damage. So to you it, you flip it out to the left of the camera itself, flip it over, and then move it over into place on the camera back.
Here’s the issue that I very quickly ran into. Trying to take a photo from a low angle, I naturally tried to angle the screen up a bit in order to preview the photo.
But Panasonic’s implementation of the articulating mechanism doesn’t allow this, unlike the Canon cameras I’ve been using. On the S-9, you would have to flip the screen out from the camera body, like in this photo, before it will swivel up or down. This is awkward at best. I’m trying to pretend that it’s not a big issue, as I have many cameras with fixed rear screens and have adjusted to using them. But it’s just that the “fully articulating” description left me expecting more.
Next up: First few days in use
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Have you considered the Nikon Z50?
Thank you for the unbiased review of your new Panasonic S9. I have been a Canon fan since my first Canon 10d. I used my camera for real estate images and videos to send to out of state buyers. When I retired in 2018 my last Canon was the 80d. Now that the Canon repair shop on Ward is no more, I would reconsider other brands, but I am so in love with my Google Pixel 9 Pro with the wonderful editing settings. The edit settings of unblur and magic eraser at my finger tips is a huge time saver. I recently took images of older pictures and was able to unblur, fix contrast, lighting and then print out to 8 x 10 with really great results. I used to use and still have Adobe acrobat Lightroom and this little mobile phone may eliminate that subscription. I wish I could upload a side by side of the 1958 black and white blurry image for you to see.
As a side note Linny Morris did my wedding images on her iPhone in 2022 and they came out wonderful. Mahalo, Brynn
Ian
Mahalo for giving these wonderful details about your hopes for the Panasonic and the difficult realities that you are facing. I have been looking for a replacement for my Canon 7D (which I still have if you know anyone who wants it) ….I want something lighter, full frame and hopefully able to use interchangeable lenses. I want mirrorless….I am lost in the choices…I did rent from the camera place in Aiea (A Sony mirrorless a few years ago and I loved it!) so I’ll rent again and this time buy the one I love….its so difficult to find the right one! Thx for the articulations
Hi Ian,
I feel your pain about unexpected issues with your new camera. The point about zoom ring direction is often overlooked because from manufacturer to manufacturer, it may differ. There is no standard. Nikons and Canons zoom in opposite directions. Sigma may or may not zoom in the same direction as Nikon. Even in the Micro-four-third (M43) camera world, Olympus/OM lenses zoom in the opposite direction of Panasonic’s M43 lenses. That caused a friend of mine to sell his Panasonic Leica lenses because, for example, it confused him while he was trying to zoom in on birds in flight. I did some research and none of the mainstream sites’ reviews mentioned which direction the zoom ring turns, so you’re left with finding out from obscure user comments or on your own. You don’t want to have to think about which way your zoom ring turns when you’re trying to quickly compose and take a photo. It is annoying, no question.
Seems like there’s two schools of thought about the articulated rear screen too. My older Olympus cameras had a simple flip up or down screen. Easy to hold the camera at waist or ground level or above my head and look at the screen to compose. Most of the newer OM cameras have a fully articulated screen like that Panasonic S9 which has to be extended to tilt up or down. It’s considered more versatile for video, but for still photography, the simpler hinged screen is preferred by many. I think one company has a rear screen that can be deployed either way, but I forget who it was.
The lack of a mechanical shutter is concerning. I’ve dealt with ‘banding’ when running with a purely electronic shutter (to reduce noise to zero) and am not able to address it in post, unfortunately. I have more than a few images ruined by this. Given that most of what you shoot is in natural light, you should be fine – but it would not work for the artificial lights I end up shooting under, most times. I also really like having the electronic viewfinder – it makes shooting much easier, particularly in bright lighting. It’s easier for me to see than the screen, although that too can be handy (I shot the Rolling Stones with an RX-100vii held over my head, watching the screen in fact!). I’ll look forward to seeing how you ‘adopt’ this new camera as time goes by. There is always a learning curve, and it takes time to fall in ‘love’ (or at least ‘like’) with new tech. I’m still loving my Sony A1 a year in – the versatility of that camera does not cease to amaze me. 🙂
In any case, if the S9 system has more pros than cons for you, you’ll learn to live with its characteristics. However, if the cons turn out to dominate, then you’re better off to keep looking, because those little irritations will eat at you. It pays to be able to get your hands on the camera before you make a buying decision, but with the limited selections available in our few local camera stores, it’d be pretty hard to get your hands on exactly what you’re interested in. Anyway, best of luck with your new camera. Hope there are more pluses than minuses. As we all know, nothing is perfect. 🙂
Exactly: Nothing is perfect.