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Yet more on that 1939 train ride

There’s some good sleuthing being done by several readers who have left excellent comments.

It encouraged me to browse around a bit. I tried to search Google for images of OR&L trains, and was surprised to recognize my father in one of the photos. Lo and behold, it seems my sister, Bonnie, has scanned two photos from a later train ride, which she has posted on Flickr. Surprise, surprise!

The photos are captioned December 8, 1946. My dad’s birthday was December 7, so this was probably a birthday party of sorts. I don’t know whether the date was recorded on the original photo by my mother (which is my best guess) or later by Bonnie. I’ll see what she has to say later today.

These later photos certainly confirm that it was a train in the background of the earlier, 1939 picture. No longer any doubt. We still don’t know the location of the 1939 picnic, but this makes the guess of “somewhere along the leeward coast” look pretty good.

So, on to today’s photos.

The top photo shows the train stopped along a sheer, rocky slope. Those windows do look familiar, and are certainly what appears in the older, 1939 picnic photo. It looks like somewhere along the leeward coast, perhaps near Kaena Point?

My dad is with the sitting group. He’s on the right in a horizontal striped shirt. Bonnie is next to him. In December 1946, should would have been four months short of her 4th birthday. Also identified is Genie Pitchford, who had been at the University of Hawaii at the same time as my mother in the mid-1930s.

OR&L

The lower photo provides a close-up view of the happy group and a different angle on the railroad car.

Somewhere along the OR&L route

Yes, it was indeed a train

The windows seen in the background of the photo of a picnic in about 1939 that was included in a post here yesterday has been identified as an Oahu Railway & Land Co. coach by two independent experts. You can see them in the upper right of the photo. It’s just a small area, hence the question about what we’re seeing.

2013

Constantinos Papacostas left a long comment, beginning with:

The railroad car appears to be identical to the green passenger cars employed by Dillingham’s OR&L (Oahu Railroad and Land Company).

He added links to two other presentations.

http://www.ascehawaii.org/heritage2000.htm#0600

http://www.ascehawaii.org/heritage2000.htm#0700

– See more at: http://www.ilind.net/2013/02/06/a-pre-wwii-picnic/#comments

Just for emphasis, another reader emailed these pictures of a couple of old OR&L rail car sitting out in Ewa.

OR&L

Then I emailed MacKinnon Simpson, the guy who literally wrote the book on Oahu’s old trains, as co-author of “Next Stop Honolulu! The Story of Oahu Railway & Land Company.”

His quick answer: “OR&L coach for sure.”

After consulting other local railway researchers, he added: “General consensus among the research team is that the photo was likely taken on the Leeward Coast in the vicinity of Nanakuli.”